Comments on: Shorting, Holding, or Folding? http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/ A site to share my tips, tools, and humble thoughts on the journey to wealth Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:26:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Frugal http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/comment-page-1/#comment-2667 Frugal Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:46:13 +0000 http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/#comment-2667 Dan, I doubt that you can find a golden trading recipe anywhere. If there is such thing, it will change with time for sure. And only a small percentage of people will figure it out only at certain time period. Dan,

I doubt that you can find a golden trading recipe anywhere. If there is such thing, it will change with time for sure. And only a small percentage of people will figure it out only at certain time period.

]]> By: Dan http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/comment-page-1/#comment-2650 Dan Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:52:40 +0000 http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/#comment-2650 I'm a college student who just started getting "serious" about investing over the last year and have been trying to find strategies and methods that can work in this current stock market. Getting started last year was really great in that almost any strategy yielded some pretty comfortable returns. I actually did beat the three major market indices by quite a bit one of my portfolios and just about tracked the S&P with another portfolio (to a comfortable 15.5% return over a year). Unfortunately, in this current market, I've been caught trading a lot more than I would like trying to properly time the market. I guess I've learned my lesson. Maybe I'm a dumb trader, but I just can't help but think that there must be some combination of shorting and holding that would allow you to play the current market. Or, maybe it's just best to drop out and wait for a confirmed trend. Parts of me wish I did. The last month wiped out much of my gains in one portfolio and have left me treading water in the other. I’m a college student who just started getting “serious” about investing over the last year and have been trying to find strategies and methods that can work in this current stock market. Getting started last year was really great in that almost any strategy yielded some pretty comfortable returns. I actually did beat the three major market indices by quite a bit one of my portfolios and just about tracked the S&P with another portfolio (to a comfortable 15.5% return over a year). Unfortunately, in this current market, I’ve been caught trading a lot more than I would like trying to properly time the market. I guess I’ve learned my lesson. Maybe I’m a dumb trader, but I just can’t help but think that there must be some combination of shorting and holding that would allow you to play the current market. Or, maybe it’s just best to drop out and wait for a confirmed trend. Parts of me wish I did. The last month wiped out much of my gains in one portfolio and have left me treading water in the other.

]]> By: rags2riches http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/comment-page-1/#comment-2618 rags2riches Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:42:35 +0000 http://www.1stMillionAt33.com/2007/03/shorting-holding-or-folding/#comment-2618 Hi Frugal, I'm confused about a few points: 1. You said you liquidated 100% of your stock market holdings, yet you will gain more from long than short positions. Are you referring to your company stock, or are you still holding other stock? 2. What do you mean you were caught unhedged? You mean you don't have puts or short positions? Because your heavy allocation to PM seems to be a hedge. 3. You have high net worth already, why not go with a more conservative asset allocation rather than shooting for high outperformance with concentrated (risky?) positions? Thanks! Hi Frugal,
I’m confused about a few points:
1. You said you liquidated 100% of your stock market holdings, yet you will gain more from long than short positions. Are you referring to your company stock, or are you still holding other stock?
2. What do you mean you were caught unhedged? You mean you don’t have puts or short positions? Because your heavy allocation to PM seems to be a hedge.
3. You have high net worth already, why not go with a more conservative asset allocation rather than shooting for high outperformance with concentrated (risky?) positions?
Thanks!

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